is a good exampleâwhere I believe the administration lumped together Saddam Husseinâa terrible guyâwith al-Qaeda, which had nothing to do with Saddam Husseinâ
OâReilly: All right. So weâll get to that in a minuteâ
Obama: And as a consequence, we ended up, uhâI thinkâmisdirecting our resources. So they are all part of various terrorist networks that we have to shut down and we have to destroy, but they may not all be part and parcel of the same ideology.
OâReilly: But I still donât understandâand I am asking this as an American, as well as a journalistâwell, how threatening do you feel Iran is?
Obama: See, look, I thinkâ¦. And I thinkâ
OâReilly: If Iran gets a nuclear weapon, okay?
Obama: Mm-hmm.
OâReilly: To me, they are gonna give it to Hezbollah, if they can develop the technology. Well, why not? And, and then so we donât have anything to do with it.
Obama: Yeah.
OâReilly: So therefore, the next President of the United States is going to have to make a decisionâ
Obama: Right.
OâReilly: About Iran, whether to stop them militarily. Because I donât believeâ¦. If diplomacy works, fine; but you have got to have a plan B. And, and a lot of people are saying, âLook, Barack Obama is not going to attack Iran.â
Obama: Well, here, here, hereâhere is where you and I agree. It is unacceptable for Iran to possess a nuclear weapon. Itâs a game changerâand I have said that repeatedly. I have also said I would never take a military option off the table.
OâReilly: But would you prepare for one?
Obama: Wellâ¦. Listenâ
OâReilly: Answer the question, Senator.
Obama: No. No, thatâ
OâReilly: Anybody can âoption.â But would you prepare for it?
Obama: Look, it is not appropriate for somebodyâwho is one of two people who could be the President of the United Statesâto start tipping their hand in terms of what their plans might be with respect to Iran. Itâs sufficient to say I would not take the military option off the table, and that I will never hesitate to use our military force in order to protect the homeland and the United Statesâ interests. Butâwhere I disagree with you, is the notion that we have exhausted every other resource. Because the fact of the matter is, is that for six, seven years during this administration, we werenât working closeâas closely as we needed to with the Europeans to, toâ
OâReilly: All right.
Obama: âto createâ
OâReilly: Diplomacy might workâ
Obama: âto, toâ
OâReilly: You might be able to sanction economicallyâ¦.
Obama: Sanctionsâsanctionsâ¦.
OâReilly: Maybe.
Obama: Maybe.
OâReilly: But thatâs, thatâs all hypothetical.
Obama: But, but what? Everything is hypothetical. But the question isâare we trying to do what we need to do to ratchet up the pressure on them to change theirâ
OâReilly: Okay. Weâll assume that you are gonna ratchet everything you could ratchet up. But I am going to assume that Iran is gonna say, âBlank you, we are gonna do what we want.â
Obama: Yeah. [ Laughs. ]
OâReilly: And I want a Presidentâwhether itâs you or McCainâwho saysâ
Obama: Right.
OâReilly: âYou ainât doing that.â
Obama: Okay.
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So whatâs happened since this interview? Iran has continued to develop its nuclear weapons program despite threats and overall angst by many people who understand the dangers of having killers with no conscience possessing nukes. After a year and a half in office, President Obama was finally able to get some sanctions placed on that country, primarily freezing Iranian assets abroad, limitingoil sales, and preventing Iranian banks from doing business internationally.
But is there anyone on earth who really thinks