not something disturbing about the fact that one uses the same instrumentâoneâs handâfor both writing and masturbation?â
âYou also use your hand to sew on a button or scratch your nose.â
âHow trivial you can be! Besides, what does that prove? The vulgar uses need not contradict the noble ones!â
âSo masturbation is a noble use of the hand?â
âIndeed it is! The fact that, all alone, a simple, modest hand can perform something as complex, costly, tricky, and volatile as sex, isnât that amazing? To think that this kindly, uncomplicated hand can procure as much, if not more, pleasure than a womanâwho is a high-maintenance nuisanceâisnât that admirable?â
âWell, naturally, if thatâs the way you see things . . .â
âBut thatâs the way they are, young man! Donât you agree?â
âListen, Monsieur Tach, you are the one being interviewed, not me.â
âIn other words, you get off easy, is that it?â
âIt may please you to know that I donât feel Iâve gotten off easy thus far. Here and there, youâve been pretty rough with me.â
âSomething I enjoy doing, itâs true.â
âFine. Letâs get back to our organs. Let me recapitulate: a way with words, balls, prick, lips, ear, and hand. Is that it?â
âIsnât that enough for you?â
âI donât know. I thought there would be more.â
âReally? What more do you need? A vulva? A prostate?â
âNow youâre being trivial. No. Perhaps youâre going to make fun of me, but I was thinking that you also need a heart.â
âA heart? Saints alive, whatever for?â
âFor feelings, love.â
âThose things have nothing to do with the heart. They are the realm of the balls, prick, lips, and hands. Thatâs quite enough.â
âYouâre too cynical. I could never go along with that.â
âBut your opinion doesnât interest anyone, you said so yourself a minute ago. I donât see what is so cynical about what I said. Feelings and love are the business of organs, we agree on that; what we disagree on is only the nature of the organ. You see it as a cardiac phenomenon. Iâm not rebelling against that idea, Iâm not throwing adjectives in your face. I merely think that you have bizarre anatomical theories and, as such, they are interesting.â
âMonsieur Tach, why are you pretending you donât understand?â
âNow what are you on about? Iâm not pretending anything at all, you rude so-and-so!â
âHonestly, when I was talking about the heart, you know perfectly well I wasnât referring to the organ!â
âOh, no? What were you referring to, then?â
âTo sensitivity, affectivity, emotions, donât you see?â
âAll that in one stupid heart, full of cholesterol!â
âCome now, Monsieur Tach, youâre not being funny.â
âNo, indeed, youâre the one whoâs being funny. Why are you saying all these things that have nothing to do with the topic of discussion?â
âAre you daring to imply that literature has nothing to do with feelings?â
âYou know what, young man, I think our understandings of the word âfeelingâ diverge. For me, if I want to smash someoneâs face in, thatâs a feeling. But for you, if you can weep at the lonely hearts column in a womanâs magazine, now thatâs a feeling.â
âAnd what is it for you?â
âFor me, it is a frame of mind, that is, a fine story crammed full of deceitful ideas of which people convince themselves in order to procure an illusion of human dignity, and to persuade themselves that they are filled with spirituality even when they are taking a crap. It is above all women who invent such moods, because the type of work they do leaves their mind free. For one of