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AJ:
The first was TWA Flight 800. The second was Oklahoma City.
DS:
And the third one was going to a massive attack in lower
Manhattan. The original plan was a suitcase tactical nuclear weapon. These people that I was talking to were very, very
credible people.
AJ:
Here’s the bottom line question. You’re getting into an attack on lower Manhattan—the third big attack. What did you say? Who
did you talk to? We know you tried to get to the attorney-general. DS:
My first move was to go through some of the people I knew in Congress. I was really working on a two-front war. On the one hand I wanted to get someone to listen to Jayna [Davis, of KFOR
News] about Oklahoma City and what was coming up—what may
be coming up. On the other hand, I was trying to get somebody to understand that Hamas has infiltrated the United States. I tried the House, I tried the Senate, I tried to get to the Department of Justice. The very people who put up roadblocks about the terrorists under Clinton are still there. They still constitute almost like a moat between the people with information and the people who
should hear the information.
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AJ:
So, when you’re talking to these Justice Department people and folks in Congress, trying to give them all this information, what do they say to you?
DS:
“Oh, my, that’s wonderful. We’ll get right back to you.” I have never got a call back. I was on a radio program back east, in Pittsburgh, and I hinted at this, I hinted that the FBI was sitting on information when they should have been sharing it with others, and as a result there was a breakdown in intelligence. The next
morning I got call from the office of the Speaker of the House, who happens to be an Illinois Republican.
AJ: Dennis
Hastert
DS:
Yes, Hastert. They said, “We understand you’ve got some
information, etc.” I said, “Yes, I do. I would really like to share it with somebody. I’ve got at least two, and maybe three, witnesses that should be subpoenaed to come out there and testify in
executive session and tell you what I was talking about.” “Okay, we’ll get back to you.” I’ve never heard again. A couple of days later I got a call from the Senate Intelligence Committee. “We hear that you’ve got information, etc.” “Yes, I have information and I’d be perfectly willing to bring it out to you, or I’d be perfectly willing to have my witnesses go in there and testify, but they have to be subpoenaed.” “Okay, we’ll get back to you.” That was last week. I still haven’t heard from them. I talk to people like you who are in the media, people who are really well aware of what is going on, and they cannot believe that this can happen. Strangely enough, the one group I have not heard from is the FBI intelligence people. Of course, if I did hear from them, I wouldn’t talk to them anyhow because they are totally incompetent.
AJ:
They got their funding tripled after the suicide attacks. . . DS:
Sure, boy, that’s great. They can all get a raise, and they can all sit around and tell everybody their informants tell then this and
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informants tell them that. I’m still trying to get somebody to listen to me out there, and to listen to my witnesses. You know, Jayna Davis, had the same stuff she showed me, she walked into the FBI office in Oklahoma City shortly after the bombing and said, “Here. I have all this material. It may be of some assistance to you.” They said, “We don’t want it.” They refused to even take it.
AJ:
Just like Sudan trying to give us the names of Al-Qaeda and arrest bin Laden . . .
DS: Exactly.
AJ:
. . . and they said, “We don’t want to do that.” Well, then, I think if you’re an investigator, you’re a prosecutor, Mr. Schippers. You prosecuted the president of the United States. Successfully got the indictment . . .
DS:
Prosecuted the outfit here in Chicago for five years.
AJ:
. . . so you know, you can see the