go shopping?ââ
Speaking of shopping, Lisa does it for both of them. âI buy two outfits of everything,â she explains. âDebbie doesnât come with me. So unless a store has two, I wonât buy it. Iâll walk in the store and say, âCan we try this on?â And I see the saleslady look around, like, âWho are you referring to? Who is the
we?â
Iâm the only one standing there.â
How did Lisa become the designated shopper?
âBecause I donât like it,â Debbie says. âI havenât gone shopping in twelve years.â
Do they relate to the many twins who have difficulty being seen as a set?
âThey choose to be considered separate. We choose to share what we are.â
Debbie: âTo answer your questionââ
Lisa: âOh, Iâm sorry. I thought I was.â
Debbie: âWe believe that the people who have a problem with it are not the twins themselves; itâs society. Everybody our entire lifeââshe uses the singularââsince we were five years old, has been trying so hard to find the differences between us: Whoâs taller, whoâs skinnier, whoâs prettier, whoâs smarter, whoâs sexier, whoâs better. If everyone left twins alone, then you wouldnât see all these talk shows with twins who hate each other.â
âEvery day youâre being picked apart,â Lisa confirms. âEvery day youâre being compared. People feel the liberty to say whatever they want, like weâre a circus.â
âItâs sort of like we always have to be
on,â
Debbie says.
âBut you
are
always on,â I point out.
âFor us, it works,â Lisa says simply. âWe know weâre always going to get attention and people are going to stop us on the street, and we use it to our advantage because our business is related to twins. But for a lot of people, the attention is just annoying. They think, Yeah, weâre twins, whatever.â
Lisa wants to make it clear that they have existed apartâonce. âWhen I lived in Australia for a year in 1990.â Debbie concedes that was the first time she got a serious boyfriend. âI ended up living with him, but it didnât last.â
Has the twinship generally gotten in the way of romantic relationships?
âNO,â they answer in unison, as if anticipating the question.
Lisa now has a long-term boyfriend, Bill, who, she says, âembraces our twinship. He gets it. He leaves us alone. My boyfriend is very quietâobviously because he wouldnât have room to get a word in. So for him, heâd be happy sitting at home reading a book, while we want to be off doing our twins stuff and being
on
. Debbie and I had a fight in Paris on the Champs Elyséesâa screaming fight in the middle of the street, while Billâs walking along, âLa, la, la,â and weâre screaming, âFUCK YOU!!!!!!ââ
They agree that any man who dates one of them has to know that the twinship takes precedenceâno matter what hour of the night. âLisa would call me at one A.M.,â Debbie says, âand after we spoke, my boyfriend would say, âWhy didnât you tell her it was too late to call?â Iâd say, âBecause it was Lisa. She had to tell me something.â âWhat did she have to tell you?â âShe wanted me to turn on Channel 2 because there was something on.ââ
âWilly Wonka and the Chocolate Factory,â
Lisa remembers.
ââWhy does she need to tell you that?ââ Debbie continues quoting her boyfriend. ââBecause itâs important.â Itâs a twin thing.â
Lisa tries to explain it with another anecdote: âWe know a man who has been married for fifty years to an identical twin. He said to me, âLet me put it to you this way: If, God forbid, I had to stand on a cliff with my wife and her